Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway can’t admit that her boss lied, even when some of the lies are on tape. Last night Chris Cuomo asked her repeatedly over a more than 30-minute interview to acknowledge that Donald Trump lied when he said he didn’t know about hush money payments made to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. Over and over again Conway refused to say Trump lied, instead, she tried to change the subject time and time again. Chris Cuomo wouldn’t back down.

Watch the full interview above.